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Brett's Guestbook « Thread Started on Mar 6, 2007, 7:12pm »
Was wondering how many of you have seen the comments by Michelle Greenwood and what your thoughts are. I don't feel our reference to the facts is sensationalizing nor exploiting her murder. The points made on Brett's website only reference what a coincidence it was that such a similar murder happened in the same exact apartment, same mo, same time of year, victim moved to Akron from the same state as Winda, same defense attorneys, same personality type. Just curious as to other's viewpoints than mine. Does the site sensationlize and exploit?
Re: Brett's Guestbook « Reply #1 on Mar 8, 2007, 4:02pm »
For those of you who have not seen her signing on Brett's guestbook I have copied it to here.
"To Whom it May Concern, I am Rachelle Greenwood's sister. Please remove my sister's name from your website immediately! You have no right to exploit her death to achieve your own needs. Her death has nothing to do with your case, and you know it. You are hurting Rachelle's family everyday you leave her name on the site of a convicted murderer. If you can prove Scott Henretty killed this other woman, than do it. But you can't, can you?!? All you can do is use your website to imply the cases are linked, to sensationalize your site and draw attention to your cause.
If you want to prove this man does not belong on death row, do it without my sister. She suffered enough, and so has her family.
Re: Brett's Guestbook « Reply #2 on Mar 18, 2007, 10:20am »
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Was wondering how many of you have seen the comments by Michelle Greenwood and what your thoughts are. I don't feel our reference to the facts is sensationalizing nor exploiting her murder. The points made on Brett's website only reference what a coincidence it was that such a similar murder happened in the same exact apartment, same mo, same time of year, victim moved to Akron from the same state as Winda, same defense attorneys, same personality type. Just curious as to other's viewpoints than mine. Does the site sensationalize and exploit?
Jonesy, Yes it does sensationalize my sister's murder. From what I know, the "MO's" are not the same. Rachelle was not naked, not tied to a bed, not missing her hands.... So aside from the fact they were both stabbed, how are the MO's similar? Also, you claim they had similar personalities. Did you know Wanda Snipes, were you friends? Did you know Rachelle? Did you and Rachelle do things together, talk on the phone, was she a friend of yours? The comments on Brett's website linking these two crimes, and that is what is being done, are more than a stretch. Spin it anyway you like, but the intention is clear, "Did the man who murdered Rachelle also murder Wanda?" Which would get Brett out of prison, that is the goal, right? I understand what you are doing and if I had a family member on death row I would want to save their life as much as you do. Two women, more than 20 year difference in age, were both murdered. And you can't prove Scott Henretty murdered Wanda, can you? The man who killed Wanda took the time to remove her hands, probably because their was DNA under her nails. He had enough time to undress her, tie her up, murder her, and in a small act of remorse cover the body with a chair. Rachelle's killer knocked on her door, said hello, introduced himself, and within minutes stabbed her to death. He was covered with blood, his eyeglasses were in Rachelle's hair. He took no time to cover his tracks, to remove evidence, to disguise who killed my sister. Both crimes are heinous, and if Brett did not kill Wanda I hope the true killer is found and he is set free and Wanda receives the justice she deserves. Please, take my sister off of your site, she was a wonderful person with so much life in front of her. You trivialize her death, you sensationalize it, you make her death a footnote, a sick link to prove your point, you distort facts, you make a joke of her death to save a life. Is that what your brother wants? To trivialize a brutal murder to save his own skin? You want to save your brother... find the real killer, hire a private investigator, contact Ohio Legal Aid and ask for help... that is what I would do. I wouldn't spin and twist facts and blatantly lie. You are a sister. Your brother has a voice and people to speak for him. My sister has no voice, only mine. PLEASE TAKE RACHELLE GREENWOOD OFF OF BRETT'S SITE.
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Re: Brett's Guestbook « Reply #3 on Mar 28, 2007, 3:48pm »
Michelle,
We are very sorry for you and your family's pain and sorrow at the loss of Rachelle, as we are equally sorry for the Snipe's family's pain and sorrow at the loss of Winda. Please understand, the news articles we are referring to in Brett's website is in no way an intention to exploit, sensationalize nor trivialize Rachelle's death or life for that matter. We are merely stating facts, we are not stretching, twisting, distorting, spinning and definitely - not blatantly lying.
I agree with a lot of points in your reply, I also disagree with some of them as stated above. I do not feel we need to justify our reasons for referencing newspaper articles on the website, people will come to their own conclusions - as you have - "removing hands because there was probably DNA under her fingernails", or - "and in a small act of remorse cover the body with a chair", among several other conclusions you made a point of in your reply.
I'm sorry, the referenced newspaper articles will not be removed. We do not have Rachelle's name posted on the main page for all to find. In all actuality, your posts are bringing more attention to your sister than we ever intended. I understand your grief, more than you realize - but anyone wanting info on what happened to your sister can easily find it - and not on Brett's website either.
You need to understand - we don't have Rachelle Greenwood on Brett's website, we have Akron Beacon Journal articles on Brett's website. Would you rather we just post the actual acticles on the site?
Re: Brett's Guestbook « Reply #4 on Mar 28, 2007, 6:32pm »
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Michelle,
We are very sorry for you and your family's pain and sorrow at the loss of Rachelle, as we are equally sorry for the Snipe's family's pain and sorrow at the loss of Winda. Please understand, the news articles we are referring to in Brett's website is in no way an intention to exploit, sensationalize nor trivialize Rachelle's death or life for that matter. We are merely stating facts, we are not stretching, twisting, distorting, spinning and definitely - not blatantly lying.
I agree with a lot of points in your reply, I also disagree with some of them as stated above. I do not feel we need to justify our reasons for referencing newspaper articles on the website, people will come to their own conclusions - as you have - "removing hands because there was probably DNA under her fingernails", or - "and in a small act of remorse cover the body with a chair", among several other conclusions you made a point of in your reply.
I'm sorry, the referenced newspaper articles will not be removed. We do not have Rachelle's name posted on the main page for all to find. In all actuality, your posts are bringing more attention to your sister than we ever intended. I understand your grief, more than you realize - but anyone wanting info on what happened to your sister can easily find it - and not on Brett's website either.
You need to understand - we don't have Rachelle Greenwood on Brett's website, we have Akron Beacon Journal articles on Brett's website. Would you rather we just post the actual acticles on the site?
Re: Brett's Guestbook « Reply #5 on Mar 28, 2007, 6:47pm »
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[quote author=rj board=general thread=1173226343 post=1173226343]Was wondering how many of you have seen the comments by Michelle Greenwood and what your thoughts are. I don't feel our reference to the facts is sensationalizing nor exploiting her murder. The points made on Brett's website only reference what a coincidence it was that such a similar murder happened in the same exact apartment, same mo, same time of year, victim moved to Akron from the same state as Winda, same defense attorneys, same personality type. Just curious as to other's viewpoints than mine. Does the site sensationlize and exploit?
Jonsey, You do have Rachelle Greenwood on Brett's website, not just a link to the Beacon articles. For your reference, this is what is written, and this is what makes me sick:
Some of you may find the following of interest.
Brett was arrested for the murder of Winda Snipes in September of 1997, and sentenced to death row in June of 1998.
In October of 2000, another woman, Rachelle Greenwood, was murdered by a Scott Henretty.
Rachelle Greenwood had lived in the same apartment building, and the same apartment as Winda Snipes.
Scott Henretty was found to be suffering from, "a bipolar type of schizo affective disorder." Henretty told mental health workers that Greenwood was, "too friendly" and that she had "too be evil".
We found that the two victims were said to be similar, both possessing friendly, bubbly personalities. Both grew up in, or lived in South Carolina, and both moved to Akron from South Carolina. Both were stabbed repeatedly, murdered in the Same Apartment.....
Scott Henretty was represented by the same attorneys as Brett. One of them made the comment, off record, that both crime scenes were almost identical.
What are you trying to imply with these statements? What is the goal? And, they are not accurate and they are not facts. You really don't have any idea what you are doing do you? I am not concerned with people knowing what happened to my sister. She did nothing wrong. If your brother loses his fight, how would you feel if someone posted him on a site, with inaccurate facts, linking him to other murders... I doubt you would be happy and say, "Well, I guess I'll just let it go."
Re: Brett's Guestbook « Reply #6 on Mar 29, 2007, 1:15pm »
Dear Michelle, I am Brett's oldest sister Diane. I would like to take this opportunity to publicly apologize. I know it has taken me some time to reply, and make some changes that, after reading your post, I felt needed to be made, way too long in fact.
When I first received your email I did go back into Brett's website and made some changes. This morning I went back into his website and made more. I am hoping that you will find the changes I have made less offensive. I can understand how the following "could" be read and found to be offensive to a sister.
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Scott Henretty was found to be suffering from, "a bipolar type of schizo affective disorder." Henretty told mental health workers that Greenwood was, "too friendly" and that she had "too be evil".
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What are you trying to imply with these statements?
This was a statement from Henretty, quoted from the Beacon article. I was not trying to imply that your sister was anything but friendly, as was Winda. So this is one of the areas that I went into and changed on the website.
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I am not concerned with people knowing what happened to my sister. She did nothing wrong.
Of course your sister did nothing wrong, no victim ever has! But please consider this, and this is only my own personal thought. "What if the State of Ohio has done something wrong"? Have you ever personally wondered if the hairs that were collected at Winda's crime scene can be tied to Henretty? The state hid this evidence at Brett's trial, and continues to hide it. Of course we do not know at this time if it can be connected, we only wonder.
Our including your sister on Brett's site is a result of our trying to answer some of the questions we have received asking if there have been "similar" crimes since Brett's arrest. Our "main focus" was including the information about Scott Henretty, not your sister.
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If your brother loses his fight, how would you feel if someone posted him on a site, with inaccurate facts, linking him to other murders... I doubt you would be happy
In fact there are a number of sites on the web that have inaccurate facts about Brett and his case. Information that is completely wrong and potentially harmful to the way the public may view his case.
Brett has not lost his fight, and I thank you for understanding that we have this cause to pursue. In one of your emails you stated that you objected to having your sisters name mentioned on a website of a "Convicted Murderer". In light of all the people who have been exonerated due to wrongful convictions, please bear in mind that being convicted does not mean guilty.
Once again, I do apologize and hope I have lessened some of the impact this has had on you. I encourage you to view the fast facts page on Brett's site and note the changes I have made. Identifying the particular problems that you have with the information has been a help and I hope you will continue to offer your input, whether it be publicly or private. I really would like to find some middle ground and thank you for your patience. Diane
« Last Edit: Apr 19, 2008, 5:05pm by thinkinkmesa »
"No, Scott Henretty does NOT match the description of the killer. I know him personally. I lived with Henretty for six months back in 1993. I have not talked to him since he commited that horrible murder. He lived in the same building with the woman he killed, BUT he was not living there when the first murder took place. So I'd say 99% probability he's not guilty for that grizly crime. But he's guilty as hell for the second one."
I find it ridiculous that you are theorizing that Henretty commited the murder Hartman which was accused.
I sympathize with Michelle Greenwood on this matter.
"No, Scott Henretty does NOT match the description of the killer. I know him personally. I lived with Henretty for six months back in 1993. I have not talked to him since he commited that horrible murder. He lived in the same building with the woman he killed, BUT he was not living there when the first murder took place. So I'd say 99% probability he's not guilty for that grizly crime. But he's guilty as hell for the second one."
I find it ridiculous that you are theorizing that Henretty commited the murder Hartman which was accused.
I sympathize with Michelle Greenwood on this matter.
Please note; that the description of the killer that the above is referring to is "a description from Sylvia Browne psychic reading". So please take the above posting with a grain of salt, as we do with Sylvia's reading.
Please also note; because of the discovery laws of Ohio there is evidence in Brett's case that has never been made available to his defense. This includes, but is not limited to, hairs found on the body. We believe that there would have been no reason for the state to hide this evidence unless it could not be tied to Brett. Does this hair belong to Scott Henretty? How would any of us know if it is not made available to Brett's defense and tested. Does this hair belong to Winda's very violent boyfriend who was never investigated? The same one who neighbors testified they heard threaten to do exactly what had happened? Again, we will never know until Brett's case is granted a new trial...and evidence is no longer hidden by the state.
I find fault with the fact that you can theorize that Henretty (or Winda's boyfriend for that matter) did not commit the murder Brett was accused of just because he did not live in the building when Winda did, or because of Sylvia's description or without knowing more about the case and not just what is posted on some debunk Sylvia site, (which contains many misleading personal comments showing a lack of information about Brett's case). Have you read the information on Brett's site? (And not just the Sylvia Browne reading). http://www.enddeathpenaltyforbretthartmann.com The hidden evidence, the perjury the state committed, his lack of defense, the rush to convict...jeez...I could go on and on. Talk about convicting someone on circumstantial evidence...Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I encourage you to learn more about Brett's case and the causes of wrongful conviction.
Please also note; that I have worked with Michelle Greenwood, most of her objections were related to the wording I had used and changes have been made to lessen the likely-hood of misinterpretation from what was used out of the "news articles".
« Last Edit: Jun 26, 2007, 12:25pm by thinkinkmesa »
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